Thing -- so is. More than a band that's that's a culture and I'm wondering does he mean. A -- society or. Kind of the German nation bacteria. Probably bode well that's that's -- the way he works you know who's got an obsession with insects and you can ecosystems what but I think. I'm thinking Buchanan nailed it on -- you know for us. This was something that you know has kind of gotten out of our hands and a lot of ways you know me. We started this with the understanding that we were gonna world. You know. And then all of a sudden turn into our fans can take over a lot of things you know and our fans. Pushing us to where we wanted to go. But it really turned into than helping us get to where we need to be you know I mean played Madison square garden and I. That in a lot of ways. Was for both of us you know I mean it was it was a level of achievement that we don't you know we have. It set for ourselves and we want and the from the fans you know I mean if and ten showed for the fans and should support this you know we would when playing an empty room so. Just assume that curtain come up missing like all those people. There when it was it was fantastic I actually describe it but I'm still trying to figure out how to feel you know. So I put a lot of ways you know I mean we have become a cultural. You know whether we wanted to and I mean we. We kind of put things out there and it and it's dissected like as a sort of this really minutes. It's very weird how like into the stuff that the kids here. But the same time I'm completely appreciative of the fact that they are so into it like me are. And it's and this isn't just 95 for us you know it's art it's music it's expression it's. Dramatics beyond her next -- from the fans it's for pretty much the same way.