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Broadcasting live from the no balance world headquarters. Joining us now on the AT&T hotline AT&T your world delivered from Sports Illustrated and SI dot com is our buddy Chris manic sacred site on. I don't know I want are committed -- nothing on on the NBA. Absolutely nothing going to be no big upgrades. Are you on the world. You know -- -- -- effect or even working and they want to go out and this to this are you are you -- New York right now. Well actually cobbled on the beach. I am in and you were anticipating the first predicts mr. then completely. Where you know not looking forward to lot except for now at and that is that. Well let's start with the big trade and I've got my quotation fingers up Shaquille O'Neal. Dealt to the Cleveland Cavaliers -- the -- think this is a great deal for Cleveland. Well it it. It's -- -- -- reward the guys because you know on one hand Shaq can be that. That dominating inside presence off a that we indeed that politically matured and -- -- -- -- -- it that a good player for Cleveland. For a very long time but he also has been isn't that that insight or should not shot blocker. He that inside score integrate got shoot from fifteen to eighteen feet away. I think -- outlook any big mentally really not that that it committee president but Shaq it's all about and yeah yet again and trade but you have Rick Fox went out Shaq and it would depend quite hard won -- -- the perimeter. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- He cut envelope is -- you crate they're gonna do -- gonna pick -- -- all day you know let bread and butter why you guys saw. First and that bought the -- in particular all the gonna put it got Turkoglu if you come back Rashard Lewis and technical situation and make check the and that we've seen. Collapsed in sixteen years Jack is one of -- not be -- big man. At between the girl -- excel electric advocated that very is a very I'd -- political -- missed but also a huge huge risk. -- -- Chris. I agree with you on the pick and roll defense that Shaq. I disagree. On the huge risk because what did they give up they gave up -- -- and they gave up and Wallace each act is a lot I mean it this thing is a disaster. What Cleveland actually -- Well now not what they want Mike it's that they ate it up to help that law is the bargaining chip they locker potential. And other deal that might be out there have been no quick because have been accompanying need maybe a little bit more could be -- Carter could be. You know it it could be major wall where they gave up. You know what they could populate the -- -- I don't have -- bargaining -- -- anybody anything anybody walked. -- It's sparring here. And they got Shaq in in the last year of his contract that's my little. -- know what the Big Apple right now. -- -- popular right now they they have to -- the supply LeBron James with the region disdain in Cleveland's -- and maybe Shaq backed peace may they believe that but. Maybe not I'm a little pride that -- make labor Richard Jefferson and reject some of the available. Admit it what Milwaukee getting hamper. -- -- -- -- and then Kurt Thomas immediately an epic -- -- like deal. But the spurs. And I'd in the labor and -- jackets and it probably better typically that is not what I like the -- up at. Have bought that -- independent little bit I mean he's the -- -- If he'd be a better fit that Shaq not indicate what they think are what guys I'm. Obviously they gave up their only leverage to make a better -- it later in the these are lecturing at. Well let's look at it from Cleveland perspective they do take a risk -- you say. But let's say you know Shaq gives them a reasonably year. They let him walk at the end of the year they not only can re sign LeBron James they can say to them. Pick any but guy you want from the max contract let's that you want us to sign because we got the spot form we'll bring him in next year. Yeah I mean that -- that that that the pot -- and I applaud them for keeping. -- cap -- you know with which Jack up the books but. I gotta I gotta believe that the most important thing for the cat is winning that seat and an anabolic said that you know the -- people abroad due to celebrate the parade. -- -- Clearly -- mid June and then leave the team. In early July you know it they ended up to be absolutely positively convinced that chat -- it got out there when the -- and I'm not sure that yet. You know of the reasons we enumerate the -- I think there's a lot. Lot of risk involved with the deal. You know when you phrase it that way. A might become an over two years that the street because I think. It does make them better does that make them the best team in basketball no it doesn't but I think you make it to. Mole like it did and won't eliminate one he created Shaq gonna. Active against bought and you really need him. Against the Celtics did not really need any not a via a huge quartet that is he gonna be effective against Washington what they can going to be tremendously improved next here. Now he's gonna be a huge liability when make -- -- pick overall pick. I mean it really just a little -- made. To counteract the effect that one player on one team and I don't think it really does that because I think that they're gonna put him in so many -- rural situation and check out. We are all the -- white. Okay I know you're the man asked on this Chris what is the story with Rajon Rondo and will he be a Celtic. Next year. It looked at and it felt they definitively if you'll be at Celtic I know that some bit awkward have been real. Yup Detroit was real hot and some of the opposite commitment that they give a little more smoke and fire. Been down there I think they would. Make a deal that number two pick I think -- it that Barack Rondo was. You talked about in those deals but -- there's been a lot a lot of -- sit around and I would say that defensively that he would. Absolutely on the trading block he is available to make called out -- because we've we've seen with Detroit call are making overtures on their own but. I'm a little surprised by guys that really -- I think that what they think Rondo and try to break the bank next year are they really believe that he's. He's on coach bullet heard and then and then not they wanna build kicking around. I -- make any huge mistake of -- window is really computers right now I mean they didn't make it even want to hear a -- This is -- -- only one year that the way to note titled -- he'd acquired. That are most effective at winning this year I think Rondo is that good it's not bad -- any player they can possibly get a return and so I think you'd be huge. Huge mistake to deal him at this point. Well let's talk about the issues that Rondo had this year because the Celtics have been surprisingly forthcoming about those issues. Is this guy a problem with coach -- day and to manage for this team. Well I think a little bit difficult you know for the people out -- within itself disorganization in the -- you know report date I think he has. Had to get what they've -- it over to overeat at a moment. You know -- not -- that sent -- consistently get the culprit got such uncle triple our source are along those lines he's gonna guided. Pat come on coach will moments where he's been doctor these you know like -- have been very cooperative opposition you don't. Just stubborn at times very with the inability that the change or to Lerner to duck development team in the direction that -- might want it taken so what they cannot. He had. At the mission that but I do believe that one of the -- that that that Robert not a big guy it hometown discount in Bosnia. Hit it that it that the European team equipment that that it you know Oklahoma City that offered him a break the bank thank you. He'd take it it not battling for time let anything get in the open market -- it becomes a free agent I think that got to play are really huge factor in the side all the drama. Chris I'm a little confused and I needed help me out here you said that Detroit offer. Was real from Boston to Detroit it was -- Detroit to Boston. I would -- bought into Detroit picture made by made by. Blustery second -- department about not what made by any aid but it was they want that limit. Okay if it was made out okay -- help me out here rip Hamilton signed the contract extension. And in November he's got four years left in his contract. A Tayshaun Prince is gonna be making eleven million dollars in 2000. 102011. And I don't think Rodney Stuckey is as good as Rondo. So. What's the motivation for -- I -- I think it's an awful trade what do you think. Well I don't think -- -- trade because I mean I guess there where we've we divert them like in the -- Rodney Stuckey he's gonna develop. -- anything that -- Honda which in return you -- you've got to be part your court the next couple years in print and and Campbell there are still relatively young guys' -- -- rent the players you know looking at. No one year iChat you know -- attitude I think going to be. No light part of that the court that it would appear with Compaq. For the next few years ago we even without -- still have some solid replacement -- that -- still art. You do that he used to watch it Egypt team in the contend next season. With that kind of trade he was on that would be debilitating expects applicable won't in the -- -- eight. He really outdated in I think that's really carry over coming up next season it he's still -- by the bought in Europe on I don't know. -- -- he actually about well and -- because without getting back. I don't like that team at all wind into. You take yourself by you know which -- spec has gone out of his way to say we can be players in the summer of 2002 and what you take yourself out of that mix by adding. They shoppers have been Tayshaun Prince is a fine player crisp but. Maybe five or six million dollars more per season that I would pay so yeah I've ever done I really don't feel that one. Yeah you know what does that make -- -- -- even after one of our Comcast shows that has that he is that. They're gonna be a player they -- declared I think the and -- extreme and a little bit about about it's nice to imagine a scenario a whopping get into the bidding for one of the big creative -- posture waiter. I've got a bit LeBron and that that but 11 with that he's he's not taking into account you know the they have to pay Iran build -- the some of their other bring it to get them to stay and block you know wanted like the day. That's okay -- get up 25 million dollar cap space rail comes up the books and and it -- comes up the books to -- you know what you want what do with Kevin Garnett and potentially Dwyane Wade in the with the NBA. Changing the way it is with with all the teams are re loading you know look at Antonio the lakers became they're getting better and better. Every it I'll pick up enough which advocates wonder put a lot of stock in the public actually being up players -- up big time players like in the -- Have to do not in not to question -- -- I do think they absolutely. Do is make up watching create you know pocket about you know leader Antonio McDyess or Grant -- -- they'll probably. Both those guys if you look at the -- Eastern Conference bloating up and you look at the with a way to opt in what a -- not mean there are so many. Eight top contenders they're not under factoring in wear Rasheed Wallace goes whether it's Cleveland. Oh whether the Antonio what do you ideological commitment that there are so many copies big Boston. Has -- -- trying to get past cinematic need to make to. Big time blasts in free agency spent money go well the logic -- threshold that any chance of being -- -- -- -- it. I was wondering about that I I get the feeling -- would have preferred add. Significant talent to this year's team and I'm not talking Mikki Moore and Stephon Marbury. If and and if I feel that he wanted to add people to this year's team I know we wants to Adam to next year's. Oh absolutely I think that you know I think cup with crushed when he another adjustment the -- got bought out here called the situation back then any Joe would. Initially traded -- to warn that it rescinded and torture be it to get bought out they had to make the move on Mike Mort what they did at. Bubbled up dropped -- spot. It -- of the bill which are in a note to -- Peter to point out that while you the contract mobile city Kevin Garnett was caught him. It -- the kind try to recruit him. Become the Balkans on it was obviously. Emphasis on getting that packet out in the the play that PJ brown back roll -- is on the way out to me hey you know Margaret had some nice moments that Mike -- the complete disaster. And Margaret what the Internet -- appointments I think that they have to make because Lackey can't wait till till February to see if somebody's gonna get bought out. Do it now get to spend that entire continent exceptional about indictment may be hope -- grant milk who had in the past. It -- -- money to play for contender immediately put the one point eight million exception of Phoenix. The play -- -- hoping he would do the same thing. Come to contender Bob is you add those two guys next to personal guide to play multiple positions I think that put bought in in a very good position to be -- connected. Celtics don't pick until 58 overall at the moment in tonight's draft. I'm not sure it matters because by all accounts this is it that a draft as we've seen maybe even since 2000. Yeah yeah and you know it's funny had a reading with any that I was -- community you know you're way. Our recently and it has more polite is 11 PM the said that I deleted all the record ways that this is an apps would pop up or dropped any -- it. Very open about it being be it parable about I think that a heat up later -- about the pop. Really three -- like activity in the show about how to operate that yeah a lot of it's like changing -- Derek in changing talent out there and so I don't see any reason what ought be I will or should negate the knicks -- locally or stroke technique. A lot of teams try to you know the first round -- -- of the European. Alex. -- -- -- -- he'd been pulled into it and has been doing for years in -- stockpile them let them develop bilateral what they have to pay them. And eat them under contract that might be the -- the ball that they keep that that he would pick I knew in the background. You know you alluded to this earlier Chris and I'm convinced I gotta I -- theory. If it Gregg Popovich. Is alone in a bar with Giselle freak indulgent. I think he can take her from Tom Brady. I made this man is it picking you as the money is the biggest sweet talker the most charismatic guy out you have to be that as a brilliant. Trade that he made they'd just so far ahead of other team when it comes to personnel. They really are OK to credit the puppet but also credit but he developed member Democrat it would work -- and opera numbered year Portland the Oklahoma City -- -- unbelievably turn that into. You know on the brink of becoming a really really scary opposite without the team. Early next he's an -- he Buford is one of the most. Intelligent international about -- minds in the business -- -- -- -- that we would stumble understaffed meat -- hit you on the Sony is. You know local -- he's out there that where he's he's making the final decision but he cannot -- got a discount any coaching that team. And not really involvement did they operations but you know you gotta give them credit they never in the never overpaid got an aggregate guys. Bad deals with a -- economic cap remember you people read -- it would make that you and dealers because you know -- had a contract you can buyout for two million -- a -- contract. Not there he Kurt Thomas and finally -- the deal they have beat -- -- architect or an unequaled time Ebert not able without the technique contract. Are you are just so so valuable to implicated but -- also. You know you gotta give them credit for doing it right wait for the last decade. Don't come close to being amnesty and anything can be I don't think that is over to -- the ticket he right now of the piazza got by the -- can't right now. To win the title if they're healthy I think that don't connect he's about to leave that trade lead them back. This is one of five and with a very deep that going to get better what Roger Mason goes back to it. And what George built is that now with the very very how to be an experienced team I think will be front runner but I don't like it. Yeah you know what I think I might agree with you why I feel like that team has reached his limit with its current personnel you know Mobley was banged up. Duncan is still an effective player but you know not a top two top three player anymore. -- Tony Parker a very good player but he can't lead a team they needed. An infusion of somebody else and number three your number four. A guy wouldn't have to be number one they had and they have I was one no I don't know about jealous Illinois during the finals. Well when. Mark Jackson kept saying about the lakers they're going to be a team that have to be dealt with for years to come not really maybe not even next year. Now I think that you know again it comes not help it's you know we've been so banged up last couple years and they actually can win without -- is there. -- go -- court player but. You know if you would help in that and that the final two years ago I think that they would have gone out LA and then -- bought them. And that and it -- I really feel it I think that Jefferson the way he's able to play ball weigh in on electable Kuwait and it can be -- What type player as it grew Milwaukee when he sort -- carried that would Michael righthander Bogut went out in. Cap or present some low post and make jump shot China to a career high. -- percent from report does not report win this year which is going to be huge weapon. I don't are there any also a tremendous tremendous fast break I note sent photos never been known. It up and -- it but it happened dark in parker until that wanna play that and you parker sometime in a one man outbreak has like. Duncan and Michael Finley Bowen. -- I don't wanna -- -- -- what the -- media people we only you want to get he owed. Paycheck -- into it because it'll be easy buckets. He's it would get in -- transition with New Jersey you can have a lot of similar situation with Antonio looking parker right that you meant fast break and getting easy buckets -- think that the -- He really is that that round peg round hole I bet that I get let me how it's all I'd trade. What art. There anything that can save tonight's shell other than the high fashion items will be looking at. But obvious security equipment. Does that mean I love Chris -- than -- nobody in pop music got -- if you blow that trap heat there beat and I mean you cannot. Let's say yeah he's a friend of mine and I -- I'd I'd take a bullet or. But you are a lot you don't take issue of the you've got to do it and I think he's -- -- -- I -- -- how how you can. You can or Ricky rubio app you've dropped 87 point guard and a lot for years and trade -- report it's been out there you got trapped in -- -- potential franchise altering point iPad -- -- really want to replace it. Partly -- I think it would to collect it I think Blake grip and that can that number one he's -- -- be at -- -- -- -- I think Ricky -- was gonna -- Steve -- Jake indicate type player a couple of years I really you know I mean it's got it. Limit the potentially only weakness. Is that it's pitcher Josh -- Yahoo! you couldn't you'd jump shot when -- came at the league Michael -- you toward the shooter and all the that you are one of the computer. In the NBA when the packet together in three short years went by the way going to be 21 point three year old he is going to be franchise player that we have -- the not. On him because they're scared you might not Kabul or white or a little one you got paid for and which you'd -- could -- partly -- via its patient. In Barcelona I think that they're making a colossal mistake is that I is that it but did a team altering -- that they can't order up. I've got to Robert Iger said Danny Ainge. Am odd times say that. I was gonna say you know what Kristen smells like a debt the smells like a back -- our cattle at a veterans don't understand is our standard that how bad you'll box. A pop but -- is pizza. That. That this guy will not be a franchise a threat -- -- I don't see that. I'm yeah grip I've only seen in the development YouTube -- that as a lot I mean. Use and you but believed any respect in his opinion engine -- opinion but. Doppler a lot of by the GM never quite are gonna give me something new about review group of people out whether it's. Is currently on the floor ability be playmaker we want -- only. The other -- You know one -- they Beirut like review unit eighteen. Yet respectable teammate in -- and Spain and that the big thing that most it can make there are 2728 years old. Economic competence in an eighteen year old really speak that speak on his -- kind of player that I will be I mean about. Tony Parker making a Brit -- you as the -- eight in nineteen year old you are playing well. Report -- -- and he also couldn't shoot the ball you put in with the a shooting coach like Japan -- that Antonio all the sudden parker one of the most dangerous point guard in the league I think he can rubio. Developing it and act acquired I'll happily take that bet for you Mike and -- -- eating. More we'll keep this from you in the future. -- -- aside upset about all I -- a whole lot. We're not out not out of this flies I'd say -- bread stick not just the reds that -- that the narrative read the sixth and property as beat. Chris well -- appreciate time thanks for joining us. You -- address asthmatic Sports Illustrated and SI dot com joining us on the AT&T hot line AT&T. Your world the --