He -- -- morning show on demand. And more I'm always online and on your schedule at WAA Ask.com. Our good friend Charlie Baker who is the Republican candidate for governor has arrived here at the studios and Eisenhower I by the way you -- fabulous for people who have been doing this for twenty years and -- us Charlie I am so sorry my dear Charlie it was Sunday afternoon and I love my opinion -- Trying to spread. How how the event. Again we've been out we've anatomy of the so -- campaign trail for the that are part of the past almost a year now I've been campaign for governor and we spent the weekend and we were gonna Portuguese festival yesterday and in -- and we heard some events down in -- and North -- we're down to -- actually with Christie -- -- -- a big Greek church festival on Saturday and -- cool we're -- Wakefield for about 500 people who -- -- and we just -- district and and the message from everybody is pretty much the same which is just win baby just -- gas -- -- -- -- -- -- where we are in Massachusetts the tremendous concern about. About the economy and about sort of out of control spending on Beacon Hill on the lack of any kind of real policy coming place and amount to a pretty good about things 10. Thank you and and I wanna thank the list and as I got a nice email from you after the fourth of July weekend we set a bunch of listeners came up to you during parades. Hey Greg -- -- crowd is definitely parade grab this. And -- a lot of models that -- to us is we're working Rose Parade -- analyst Cynthia I'm a woman show and and a by the way isn't -- he'll -- as the greatest guy ever. Well -- server becoming the president of the home in morning. Connecticut get a little game that yeah you can navigate we limit how much is our guys whatever you want however it would however you. Bill well you wanna talk to Charlie Wi a bunch of things two go over Charlie who gore with Charlie but if you wanna talk also here's your opportunity. 6179311. Area 61793118. After. We are about what three months away from this. It's about a hundred days at this point I don't really. In the Summers a hard time -- people. Sort of focused on this ago announced on their minds but it will really pick up come -- a bit and you -- thing where where you bottom line is we're sort of about seven points among all voters were about some points by having governor yeah mum but when he pointed -- -- -- but among those were really paying attention of the race today the and and the best part here is that. We are doing really well with the people who analysts' mean I'm a new -- -- whenever and statewide reform and to people who have been there for a long period of time of the you know and and the best part for me is is I've gotten to know people -- -- gotten better because our message which is all about fiscal discipline control what's going on out there and focus on creating a climate where and create jobs and give people back to work. What I call the pocketbook stuff. Is absolutely what most people care about wanna talk about unless you something done about. Yeah well I wanna ask you about some comments that the governor made over the weekend because I think they're they're they're obviously directed at you. So I wanna I wanna get you here think I want. -- -- your opinion on them the -- the governor said he was in in that Chelsea yesterday. And he said that there are those. Who value. A business bottom line over a human. Bottom line. And he said this is a quote what the others are selling. Is this old hired and I think the old idea. That every one of us is on his -- own. And good luck. Now while. First of all is that your philosophy that everybody's. There aren't but like I suppose and the way the way I think about this is very simple which is. Governor Patrick it's going to leave the next governor whoever that is with a two billion dollars structural deficit -- disputes and including him and he hasn't ruled out raising taxes again to solve that problem after a tax increases over the course -- the past four years. That is not by any definition. Good management of the business side of the ledger much less the human side of the ledger what is an ability to reform state government led to three years in a row locally cuts. Aware that we said today in terms of the number teachers are actually working -- from the Massachusetts. But 3200 less than we're working in classrooms when he took office when there's probably a pretty big human cost of that when I think grace so let's make that clear so here's when he took office there are we 32 -- -- -- which is yours and in Massachusetts yes yeah. So so much -- noise and it might do and this is very simple you wanna do something about the so called. Human issues associated with. You know Massachusetts. Jobs public safety education. This stuff people really care about in terms of the grand scheme of things. They do a good job with the budget stuff deliver. -- a balanced budget every year don't live beyond your means which state government's been doing every year for the past four years. And commit to the people of Massachusetts you're gonna play by the same rules they've been playing by -- and asked him he's clearly hasn't been doing its. An interesting when you -- teachers to the goes on and in his comments yesterday. To say. All of us likes the idea. Of taxes coming down I like it but at the same time. I think we owe it to our children to have teachers in the classrooms I think we owe -- to our community to have police and fire on the streets. This is -- guy Hewitt when he 500 cops protecting. Now -- the national governors so clinic and -- currently our two weeks ago went out and the -- of those college students they -- if they can benefit if the other candidates. If the other candidates get their way you can -- -- that -- -- -- and you're saying now that I'm going to look on the one candidate. The race is committed not to cut locally because I think the -- been pushed and its problems off by the the cities and towns for the past three years. And the cities and towns have actually probably done more hard work to reform the way they do business in the state. You know story in the paper today about communities are talking about regional rising services and coming up with a smarter and better way to do stuff. That's exactly the kind of thing that's not going island Beacon Hill and I find that those are pretty those are pretty astonishing remarks given his record over the last four years. -- You're on the Charlie. -- yeah I went the next scheduled debate. A&W BZ TV. Do you definitely. Always news out what you. And county. And it out but. It. Needs of any. I think jobs certainly I mean have you. If you've ever done this before state cubs still are only as they -- -- hard to learn is is you have to learn how to especially by the look. The the simple truth of the matter has been candidate is a lot different to run an organization and I'm I'm learning how to do that every single day but the bottom line is. I believe that the issues in this case are with us I mean work. I've been doing this now for a year and I'm telling you what I get into it for me it was all about. What I call the pocketbook stuff jobs taxes and spending and what are we gonna do about our economy get people back to work of making sure. This place is a place where. Everybody including the next generation of kids. Can find a job make a life and plant a flag. And I didn't know if that's what everybody in Massachusetts is gonna wanna talk about or not but that is exactly what's on most people's minds or people's -- he's never been through this drill before. He never really been a candidate before is that going to be a problem the answer is yes I have a lot to learn tactically -- -- but in terms of what's on people's minds. They wanna talk about and they care about wanna see something done on the same stuff that I wanna talk about and see something done. I was amazed to learn from you recently that Massachusetts we just had a discussion about illegal immigrants which we talked about a lot in the show is you know. I was amazed to learn that Massachusetts has no laws in place as far as employ. -- who hire illegals know where we -- not supposed to obviously but in terms of actually enforcing that issue I mean I look come up their talk into. Small businesses contractors. Landscaper is retail. Shop operators mechanics stuff like that all the time and and they said to me point blank look I feel like it jumped. Playing by the rules you know I I pay my taxes they pay you why my guys pay taxes. Health insurance or pay workers' comp. And I'm competing against. These other organizations that hire people illegally pay everybody below the table everybody knows. Where they are where they get these folks and where they set up they charge 30% less than I do I complain all the time to the state nobody ever does anything about it. Yeah this is. Jack hello Jack your -- Charlie Baker. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yeah Kayla going to be that pretty much -- the 2000 and not election here. In the sport up. Why -- I mean and again. I certainly hope not I mean I the way I look at it at this point is is is we're gonna we're gonna stay on the stuff we've been talking about witches. Which is all about reforming Beacon -- cutting spending and creating a climate that can create jobs and as far as I'm concerned you know. -- Tim's been up there for eight years okay and when he got asked about a year ago when I did about what he would do to cut the budget he couldn't answer the question yeah I mean as far as I'm concerned. He doesn't have. He doesn't -- and neither does the governor to either cut spending -- reform state government and I believe that's gonna separate us from them at the end of the day. Global carry today. The only reason -- -- and I. -- is handing out 44 million for a school in Wellesley today. Certainly -- that we do need to use the rules that seems like me is that a lot of money and I don't let that ice. Alan Newton sentenced to hundreds and -- familiar it's probably. Mum associated with the school building assistance program which is run out of the treasurer's office -- just sort of be standard operating procedure on some level that's an awful lot of though 44 million. So it was coming from you today in a killer Manuel Alvarez says yes -- Here is wreck wreck -- on with Charlie Baker. Hey Charlie you can you. A fire are you still but the immigration problem and no due to change things -- -- -- I actually think this that it came up with a pretty good piece of legislation as part of the budget processor in Massachusetts I was really disappointed that the governor basically said he would veto it forgot to his desk and it died in the in the legislative. Process but you know that was no state benefits for anybody who's not a citizen of the Massachusetts citizens of the country. Program for which you can actually some line for determining citizenship status facility available to all employers and also available to employers who do business to become more -- actually requirement that. Employers who do business of the coming up the -- using verified. Till my other favorites you gotta prove your citizen before you can register motor vehicle in Massachusetts. Com and also you got -- You gotta prove your citizen if you've been accused of the crime and you -- seek public defense I mean it's amazing to me that we don't do that now just as a standard part of the you know operating processed image have to prove their citizen before the tax -- It's fun in the cost of their legal defense yeah. If anything at right -- series of other I think really solid and what I would describe them and I think most people Massachusetts would call common sense reforms to deal with this issue. And and none of those made it really through the process to the end and and I think that's a large part because the governor. Made pretty clear that that he's not on the same side on these issues and he's made that clear from the get -- you talked earlier about. In state tuition -- -- immigrants and driver's licenses and all the rest look for the people who play by the rules in the immigration process is extremely difficult which you spoke to talked about on the show as well. It's just that it's it's a classic example of somebody plays by the rules goes to the process plays the game according to the way it's supposed to be played it annoys them when somebody else doesn't. And that's it -- it's just become clear because it's it's fiscally and that's Spencer you should not get penalized for doing right then men should not be right and you shouldn't be made to feel like it jumped from doing the right right how some people feel about this and Tony. A good morning governor audio. Into the green and yeah I mean how would you know letting every week vacation that the African cultural society was terrible actually exist at what he loves that. It's close to have you -- the -- -- out of 1000 all right you guys are talking about it the the commission came out with a 1000 great places in Massachusetts twelve people -- are there artists there are turns out there's only 996. Because they had they had -- duplicates on there and an awful lot of the places are closed or don't exist anymore is that right yes so -- I don't know amidst the Obama camp any -- -- missed this -- as an array commission that was commission of twelve people who spent about a year and a half. He going out what the 1000 great plays against Puerto. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- All -- -- ago -- what's up. Envoy mister baker or you know. I'm good thank you a question about. The current gun control other crosses state you know proceeded to city is so different and you know it's not fair that it took me in my opinion of the -- issued license. -- be restricted from city to city to a different way. Among registered what you're billion -- And I think the rules of the same I think the issue is that police chiefs in each community have the authority. Thumb to deny somebody access to a to a gun permit if they choose to I think the big issue there is people need to have if -- -- with the police chief is gonna deny somebody. Access to a permit and is to be some sort of pretty quick process for dealing with that appeal which I think has not been. People really haven't been able to figure out which generally speaking I think I think the rules of the same from state to -- from city community community community. Now 11 of the Wall Street witches before this the end of this legislative session which I think is July 31 and we -- him is to limit gun sales to one per month. To people on Tuesday. Among other things right yeah -- -- that he looked the if you look at most of the activity that's taken place with respect to. The guns and gangs and crime men and in most communities. You know talking about registered firearms you talking about people are using guns illegally and you know again I'm back to the local -- cut if you cut locally three years in a row so people don't have the same the right. There have as many cops on the street is they used to have the right and near an -- locally three years and -- schools are able to do with the schools used to be able to do. Don't be surprised at that as an impact on crime a lot of a lot of communities because that is in fact sort of infrastructure in the core of what. Hmmm what keeps kids out of trouble and and keeps communities safe and I think. The folks the focus on this gun bill as the crime prevention mechanism instead of -- What are we doing in terms of making sure their local communities are positioned to provide safe streets of public safety and and public education. Is the wrong focus what we ought to be focusing on this is stuff the communities need to be able to do to protect their citizens and keep their streets safe. And that includes in my mind knock it locally and get serious about. Treating gun crimes as serious crime they are especially the use of a registered an illegal firearms which I have -- Believe in many cases there are associated with a lot of the crimes were talking about. Well Charlie Baker is our guest on WA AF in WAA FHD one less robust in the lead KO NW OK after HD one product in Boston. Would you when you got in would you ever consider selling any state assets you know like you know the Greece they're selling some violence I mean would you ever think about half hour unloading area I -- -- there yet as the -- the signs of violence and others. I can't the answer is. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Maximizing. The return on -- -- this has got the answer is yes and action that could include in some cases fell on some stuff sure. And have you chosen a a campaign team beside me and you know how the these politicians always -- -- -- Boston is pretty much -- the -- on the throw -- a lot of our message that -- I think the drive the truckers to drive -- -- local -- they're great guys and we're -- which we we tend to use them -- state of Massachusetts reviews too although that's kind of a -- -- in terms of what it's actually about even -- accidentally -- a career of doing. Like when Reagan was running around using born in the USA by Springsteen needed realized analysts say it was an anti united Americans not take Gavin. What's up. Yeah and arbitrarily. Certainly hope so -- of them. I want to question about that unemployment has -- How you handle. When -- -- in Little League team is headed our you know and it -- department won't -- like about what. Cover all the out of there yeah. I think he means the -- he thought about the unemployment benefits going away may be and that's it -- -- -- level one and I. You know you're not running for again I. Early so that probably can tell you though is that that is somebody wrote a column last week human services that the big problem here is that. People won't put the legacy and have to pin -- on the democratic leadership in congress won't put the unemployment extension through on its own. The put it through with all kinds of other stuff -- and that's what's created -- they're using is a device to to get a whole bunch of other spending programs through and that makes it impossible for anybody really cares about deal with the federal deficit which happens to be at this point a whole bunch of Democrats and all the Republicans. And it doesn't give him a clean vote and just the unemployment extension I think if the unemployment extension was of for a vote on -- don't think that would probably -- people aren't gonna vote. At least not enough people at this point which I don't think is a bad thing ago are gonna vote to expand and expand the size of the federal deficit via its employee -- to spend the money -- have. And stop using this that the other thing is the device to put some of the things room mates and that and then that wind there's clearly a lot of politics in play stamp. You look at the base -- ally. I hope you get -- -- stop that they thought if you can get in as governor decide the sellout the problem that's a that would suggest that it Cambridge. That's not exactly what I meant. It felt Cambridge. All right it's adjacent holidays that you -- -- maker. Our guys got a question Gloria. How the governor let's -- Patrick. This year I look at the palm collections all. I know you -- about content not try to local aid fire police out protecting the state employees. I like the common corrections. Literally I mean. The government ratio which -- as -- percent -- splash yet this year we took a 1% raise and we still haven't got some. Governor. What you know it it'll protect some of the state workers. As a middle of those. Bottom line versus human -- we got our bottom line this guy ever since I'm I've made pretty clear that I think their a lot of things we should do to reform state government and I've also make clear that I think. The state has. Is is a very complicated organization is over a hundred operating agencies of one type or another a lot of duplication and I've made pretty clear I think we should reduce the State's workforce. By at least 10% and I mean that and but you know moment to people are doing things where. What I would describe as sort of the day to day responsibilities. -- record fundamental to the State's capacity to to performance duties and obviously correctional officers would fall into the category what I will say is until the state gets real about reforming the way it operates and cutting state spending and clean up its fiscal act. Remember I started this by saying we have a two billion dollar deficit still in front of us after. Eight tax increases billions and rainy day fund money billions is stimulus money and all the -- The state is never going to be available to honor the commitments that it's made to people already including commitments like the one you just talked of. There -- to look at the business side this way you look right the human and or or are in conjunction because -- you don't have the money. It does actually -- to just keep at pouring out. The state this stake in this state government under this administration continues to be managed by the budget crisis instead of managing the budget crisis put that behind it and yet again again and and starting to think strategically about what you can Google for the other thing -- say. Is the fact that the governor won't rule out raising taxes again to solve the budget deficit that's exactly the wrong message to send to businesses and the families about investing in Massachusetts I mean the thing you need to do most of all if you're serious about. Getting those 320000 people back to work and having them generating come and spend money and all the rest. -- -- to stop living beyond your means which is what we've been doing in state government for the past. -- yours will not listen you know that the governor refuses to come on this program my you know I make repeated. And -- and I I don't know what I don't understand why it is that I'm of I thought throw while I take your personal but I -- I'm trying to get over that and so we can't really have you have your next televised debate just temporary. But I thought maybe you know we since we can't have a debate UN the ball on on the on the shelf. I might play some audio from the ball as if this were debate and they give you. A moment or two to respond Ari are you game. The so -- just pretend you're at a debate and a nominal got a governor if the Beagle won. Governor Patrick go I had in and and you have you have a few seconds ago -- -- she's. And Honolulu. -- -- Okay don't take my word for a Massachusetts is on the -- and on the move. -- mr. baker. -- out there all the time talking to people regularly tea from. I militant commitment with a bunch small business people how affects last week we're going up to me with a group of small business people in Pittsburgh today and they should they do not believe Massachusetts is on the men the -- most of them. -- almost under siege and one guy actually said point place -- a Philly the state treats me like an ATM machine and come and and look there. I ran an unemployed there's still 320000 people out of work commences -- until all the time. And I -- -- about what they're up to -- they talked about the fact that you know interview for jobs and there's a 1020300. People applying for the same job. And they consider themselves lucky if they make it to the finals -- -- five and and I always ask him a pianists it will do you think you're gonna be working by the end of the year. And the vast majority of them today under the current circumstances I don't think so and the -- and I'm telling the other thing I'll say is that. We will never be on the mend and on the move until state government gets serious about managing its fiscal affairs stopped going back to the taxpayers for more money. And stop sort of pushed and -- in this cam on the deficit down the road which is what the State's been doing for the past. Years governor excuse me turn your time's up. Our governor. A governor he Charlie -- you about the budget would you would you like to comment on. Our hearts -- the organization here but it staff responsible and yeah -- Any update -- That Charlie would like to respond governors the governor's budget was in fact on time. Or give him out -- -- a but the bottom line is it does. Lead us to this huge budget deficit next year because it's spends a -- a one time money to actually be balanced this year and most important -- -- There's no reform in that budget in terms of you know sort of taking on some of the tough issues MB get well let's talk about some of the ones we talked about here at immigration we've talked about one here didn't do anything about. About immigration it didn't do anything about. Giving cities and to have more flexibility with respect of their health insurance it didn't doing things. About consolidating state agencies are dealing with this larger issue of of how we actually gonna create a streamline and simpler way of managing state government. And and bottom line is yeah if you have one time money you raise a lot of taxes and you're willing to kick the can on the true cost of your budget forward. This was balance but next year is this going to be MS. -- wanna talk about casinos with the boat both both candidates on. And -- -- -- -- Hillary yeah. -- these quietly the so a story over the weekend talked about casino lobbyists have spent one point eight million dollars during the first six months of the year them. Let me asked the governor about the casino lobbyists spending one point eight million dollars and whether he's been influenced by that and. And in talking with them. Worried about -- let me tell you there -- -- interest pressing every issue up on Beacon Hill. But I try to keep my focus on what's best for the greater good. The days ago and I densities -- about hasn't and that's hockey and any of these -- you imagine. -- Greg if over the course the past four years we've spent. All that time that the come off the Massa spent talking about casinos have we've been talking instead and doing things about streamlining and simplifying state government clean up our regulatory mess not raising taxes bounce in the budget -- local aid. Imagine how many more people would be work in a Massachusetts right now and when that be a heck of a lot better that all this time of the synergy that's gone into this one. This one issue and and -- look I I could certainly see doing casino in Massachusetts what the heck there's all those Massachusetts license plates and all those -- analyzed on a Connecticut Rhode Island. But but it's. It's kind of a sign of the way the way Governor Patrick a lot of other people on Beacon Hill approach things that they've been so focused on this issue when the blocking and tackling of delivering. -- on affordable and responsive and accountable state government in the long run what and a lot more for jobs and economic development. Why isn't it you know isn't it always the way here where rather than just like let's just decide on casinos and go for it. Why does it have to be your personal you know. That the speaker doesn't he wants the slots at the tracks and now the governors well and in line of that in my communal Murray's got -- I mean I like why can't we just. Debate the issue get it done you know and get in and move on because they think we're going to. And up. Financially making some good money -- I do think the I do think part of the issue we have come and this is just. Sort of when when you don't have that when the governor's sort of leading news of the discussion and driving the train and setting an agenda and a context of a framework from this other stuff. It's pretty hard to get traction on this him in the legislature tried to do something about pensions which deference does desperately need to be -- we talked about on the show. Governor gave him know how I -- legislature try to do something immigration. Alleges that governor gave no -- -- that legislature try to do some things are giving cities and towns more flexibility with regard to how they make some of their decisions governor gave no help on that. So then you get to the end of the process and where the governor has our parachutes and at the end of this whole thing around casinos and their service and they're looking animal go where we -- we were trying to get this other stuff done. He gotta be willing. That it it to the to play on more than one issue if you wanna be if you wanna be able to to secure success on this stuff with him today. Buying -- time is running out a little that your by the way you're listening to our gubernatorial debate here and Hill Man Morning Show is that Charlie Baker and that Governor Patrick. I want a final statement from each candidate would you would you. The first term short -- I'm happy and I know we'll get the governor of jail waiting -- to get a -- and look this is Massachusetts is great state and as I've been able traveling over the course the past year I've been more convinced than ever that is chock full of wonderful people community oriented people generous people. Some want to creativity Univision and what they need more than anything else is a state government the plays violence by the same rules they live by everyday and that means little within your means. Being affordable being accountable and and frankly. I'm getting real about the notion that. State government works for the people of Massachusetts -- not the other way around. All right that's currently baker Republican candidate for governor. Now Governor Patrick you have about eleven seconds. Career is on this morning every once in awhile when an ad that dole says. You know like you know supposed to come to work with your hands down here. You know behind you know and that's not supposed to do that okay. Great I was a resemblance. My and I think we've done that we know a lot about them both candidates really stand the things that -- -- Well lately though -- -- let these things -- -- a little bit. All right what you went through three more calls and and we view out of here because you get the -- right now are you guys -- a moment to mean -- people did not hold big John. Let the guy you Roberts anchor. So Chad collecting evidence that's Korea -- Vietnam thank you a quick question how you feel that the FT that the regulations that -- Again that's the key technical regulations to put on truckers. On truck drivers the DO he DOC DOC regulations which which regulations that is. They're telling our -- -- -- -- heavily market their computers that you gotta -- had diabetes you gotta figure it out yet that's. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Look at this what I can tell is one of the things. The bothers me about the Patrick administration overall -- their approach to regulatory policy is way over the top. And and I'm gonna have one of the things as that is day one moratorium on new regulations and a total top to bottom review of all of our existing ones. We can't keep regulating ourselves to the point where knowing configure actually comply with our regulation -- this -- -- -- files -- -- in that category the -- should also -- that. They really appreciated the fact that his registration fee for his truck double -- -- without any warning between a Friday and a Monday just about this time last year yeah. And they were up -- baker. I -- -- they're -- -- Bolton all my life how do you actually trust any kind of politicians we and they make promises. And don't eat it and he also feel bad if they elect promised. And they don't fulfill that (%expletive) they every market forces. Well I think the governor made a whole series of promises thousand more cops on the street who's gonna stop cutting local lady is gonna cut property taxes. Grow the economy by a 100000 jobs. -- and delivered he hasn't really tried that hard to deliver any of those I think your opportunity to deal with that is going to be in the ballot box come November. Then an -- I guess what I would say is I haven't made a lot of promises and I think one of the reasons I'm not gonna get a lot of endorsements from a lot of groups is to give him I'm making a lot of promises. To a lot of groups -- what I have promised of people Massachusetts is I'm not gonna raise taxes to solve this fiscal problem and I'm not calico local way and I'm gonna reform state government simple simplify trinket Inco and and cut state spending because that's what I think we have to do we wanna give people back to work. And create a climate here in Massachusetts where we can generate jobs and economic opportunity and that's one promise that is that is my crowd as he likes to residents and I'm telling -- the governor and and the judge -- pick up tons of endorsements along the way here because they're gonna make all kinds of promises that they can only keep by taking them out of the rest of people Massachusetts and a mark on there. Died -- as always it's great that -- -- thanks for coming by this -- -- appreciate it only does go to -- let's that was -- Charlie Baker -- ten Beckham okay and keep fighting the good fight out there thank you can see guys I'd accidentally Iranians earlier -- -- Is not -- -- not isn't Leo this -- slowdown on LB being here every Monday -- A promise he cannot keep.