WA AF Hill Man Morning Show podcast. Goal. Silver. Okay it's probably China. Here's the number if you like to speak what Charlie Baker 6179311. AF. And that Charlie is in no way associated with a scheme that we just played here and course although I did learn watching that game that the correct answer always is the you're smart I belong and Jeremy you are at the patterns I thought it was open up their while to figure it out but I got there eventually got there -- get there eventually I am -- I'm glad you're here again and now we had you last time you hear that you just announced we had yeah last August and were we see some really interesting things in in this dates and -- in and I wanted to ask you a little bit about. The election Scott Brown and if you feel like as a Republican. Maybe there's more of a chance for her state office holders to have an opportunity to be elected in the stated -- that showed you that. Yeah I think the big thing from the -- brown election was there a bunch of ambit of the big things -- number one. People clearly don't like the idea of one party government -- that whether it's in Washington -- here. You know big part of -- message was remembering balance that federal debate can't create. The so called fifth 41 senator make it hard for just one party to drive the train right off the tracks. And I think the other thing was scotsman. A lot of time talking about the same stuff we've been talking about which is job spending and taxes now and the fact a lot of people worried about the effect of the government spend a lot of money it doesn't have. And eventually that's gonna splash back on all of us and and I think that's. You know that's an issue Washington it's an issue here and it's going to be an issue I think all the way through the election. Yeah -- when -- look -- your experience -- -- you 11 of those things that I like about view as a candidate is the have both. Public and private sector experiencing any you're in the while administration worked in the -- -- administration. And then went. -- and run Harvard pilgrim which when you took over was pretty much near bankruptcy records and I ended up becoming the number one health care provider in the and the country based Pfizer zero -- from your eyes ears or our. So you look at -- And a half. Hold on -- value on the -- I think it's a -- you're myself and our quit away. When you look at things you're looking at the state from the perspective of somebody who ran a multimillion dollar business and who knows how difficult it can be to do business here in Massachusetts correct and this is what's -- in the rest of his. His liberal friends don't always understand which is that. You know they give them the more onus them more the more. You you charge companies to do business that the more you make it harder for them to do business they're not hiring people they're firing people that you're they're just living yeah -- just leaving Massachusetts. And with a big problem with that I mean even before the economy got bad around here. We that we hadn't created any new jobs sort of net basis and ten years when lest they government 1998 through 3.2 million people working in Massachusetts. And in 2008 before the economy got bad. There were 3.2 million people working in Massachusetts -- and the big issue for. For you for your audience and and and and I think for all of us generally is if you just look at what's been happening. To the population in Massachusetts. Going down a little over the course the past few years but the big problem is eighteen the 35 year old group to I think of is sort of my kids the next generation of sort of creators and and and innovators. -- stay in the way they used to they're becoming a smaller part of our population every single year. And and then and that that trend over time even though we have more colleges and universities and anybody considered to be a great place to be young person. It comes time for a lot of those young people to make a decision about where they want their future to be. And that's they have now and that part scares me to death. We -- we're we're at Charlie and I are refineries the and I and we're and Charlie gave great speech he was talking about your kids and I want to stay in the state were able to be successful here. And then you were talking about going of the registry. -- -- Years' -- my sixteen year old -- Who now has his learners permit so I would advise anyone who has anywhere near slumped out of and are sure to tread very here. Tell us had to be pretty careful by itself but -- -- you were talking about how you go and you apply and you pay your money to apply. And then you're not you know if you fail you gotta go back again this is this is. Really interesting you know legally and news. My wife took human. And you go in there and you spend like literally an -- working your way from one countertop to another and that eventually. You have to take a test and the first time. My wife took him he felt the test. Okay now if you fail the test you have to start over again to my wife -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- That's a classic example of not thinking about this from the point of view of the people who pay the bills you know. Everything government does should be thought of through the through the lens of what does this mean for the people who pay the taxes what does this mean for the people who pay the bills -- we make this process work for them. Because those and they are in fact the customers of government and that's the way we should be organized in what we do an. I don't think they get it whether it's the ball actor -- scored that Leo hours you know they're nice people and all but I don't think they get the fact that people are tired. Of these taxes how much it cost to live in this state and how an an and it just continues the worse it doesn't get any. It doesn't get any better and yet and the other thing I'm Greg it's I hear all the time as his people sort of feel like there's two sets of rules right. You know they're out their tighten their belts are living with last -- their dealing with the new normal. You know 20% down whatever it is in your family budget to 20% -- in your business whatever it is and people are sucking it up and figure that out. And then look at what's going on of them became -- they see the you know the states never had a hiring freeze in place the state continues to fill open positions -- state. Budget continues to grow a minute ago that they say. That's the wrong with this arm pain and so that you know I'm I get 20% less I have to make all kinds of adjustments the way I live. How come a -- -- doesn't have to stick government you have to play by exactly the same rules everybody else plays. I'm so if you win let's just get concrete for a second and then we'll take some calls -- want to idea let's see if let's get concrete on this one thing he -- in November. Even going to you know cut the budget you know you can -- equivalents that you do that I had a good working relationship with the legislature rulers there before tea. You know I'm a mixed marriage did my mom's a Democrat my dad's or Republican I grew up listening to them debate the issues of the day I can talk to both sides. And downward spiral and I mean you have to cut you have to cut people in have to spend less money yes yes yes and you guys do that -- look I don't I don't say that with. Joy or pleasure enthusiasm but I think at the end of the day the people who pay the bills. Deserve a state government ablaze by the same rules they do and that means live within your means and doing with -- period right now every day. I this is -- Iran. Thank you donate early and -- again. An output deployed Charlie. Rigor that's all about the Deval Patrick that it you don't. You guys all backed up all indicate look at that beat them all factors to what we -- gonna bring you to -- -- on. Well that's a great question and I guess they start by saying that this whole proposal we made this week with regard to the registry. Trainees kiosk is a device you know put him up and shopping malls and CVS is in stoppage jobs giving people alternatives to have a go spend two hours stand in line at the registry. That's a direct shot at the fact that the governor close at eleven registry offices with no plan. With regard to how always gonna affect the the public that actually has the use the registry. And his basic message was you're gonna have to wait longer line I'm sorry that's not a good answer. Well they do that because that makes people miserable in his mind. I'm gonna make people see what it's like if we have to close registries you know if I have to and in Washington monument strategy. Wasn't like him I'd close it down everybody to be upset about it to your plan I like your -- it's basically there are kiosks like a hundred kiosks in -- -- businesses. That are open way and weekends that opened when at night yeah. It's basically opened. When everybody's Macon women's. Health that I actually help people get their differences ya -- and and does that cost money to establish a little is that the the businesses wanna have a their business -- -- have them there and in other states that have done as the businesses typically end up paying for haven't Americas and want to foot traffic out when the people coming into their pharmacy of those who are leveraging. That's ingenious way to look at it out they're really is it's amazing eight top. You're on what Charlie Baker running for governor. TriBeCa ally in its. -- I have. Two question. First what have you heard about the debacle in child there. With the registry to -- themselves pretend they're now making people give up on that spike instead bridge. Go to that registry at -- a child rest area. And then get epic tropic Auburn. I'll really got -- -- I mean this is that this is this kind of story I I marched in the Holyoke Saint Patrick's Day parade when I was out there that Sunday. All anybody wanted to talk to me about was the registry issues out western mass and how far people have to go knowing convenient it is. And that was what really pop does this say we're we got to put a proposal out there on this one I think he -- -- to put him. All. Right Amanda. And give people literally dozens if not hundreds of options with regard to this instead of -- people deal with the kind of issue that he's talking about what was your other question top. Now it is very plans being here. Hopefully tenure as governor. Do look at twelve -- that Obama paramedic in western mass. And I have picked up individuals. Who holed up like -- -- because -- out felt tired. And tell me I have to treat that because they pay my bill that there are out belt. Syria I am. The air India went out to them that you pay their bills guess that's exactly what. Well I might -- my -- salary but there are now. Yeah I think look all of that stuff. Needs a complete review when I when I -- in state government back to the ninety's. We did some of the most significant reforms of welfare programs in the country and and and frankly I think they -- the right thing to do not just for. For the state of for the taxpayers. The for a lot of the people who are actually you know they get into that dependency thing in them ever get out. And and I think we've drifted tremendously over the course of the past years and that we all that stuff should be back -- the table again when what did you think of delete those casino. Proposal I look have been the foxwoods and Mohegan Sun and I certainly think put in a casino somewhere in Massachusetts makes it makes a lot of sense and I think we should put it out to bid and let the developers in the local communities make the best proposal they -- and take whichever one makes sense the thing I worry about with more than one. Is what that's gonna do existing local businesses around Massachusetts that I think you know that are making eleven and then and paying their bills and are we gonna end up taken. Business away from them if we start to saturate the market so I certainly union audience favorite doing 120 just given the state of the economy ya mean. How many casinos really in any state at this point afford given the fact against its all over New England talking about put these things out. Yeah I will I mean I think it will be great it would bring people years. I create jobs and -- off got a job that would would would be created paid Byron Iran what Charlie Baker. Thank you Greg page Leo look -- -- I have a question. I'm cutting big government and a little wary of that stature that Google programs to elect met federal prescription advantage. That a critical that the -- totally disabled. So I'm curious we're gonna start. Okay that's a really good question I've said for alarm time that the last thing we should be doing is cutting programming. To disabled populations and frankly this administration. Patrick administration a number of times has pursued that option. Over others in and -- into other things you know no matter how bad it got nearly ninety's we never cut the homeless program and we never cut the soldiers' arms. Right this administration has proposed cut in both of those things and number of times I think you start with. Simplifying and streamlining the bureaucracy. No one argues that state government is an incredibly complicated. Totally overloaded. You know. Big giant ball of wine in terms of the way it's organized chaos at an even if you're working and it's hard to get stuff done. And and I have prolonged time that we should be consolidating agencies. Consolidating the way to say it works in creating a much simpler way of doing business and if you do that you can dramatically reduce the number of people who work for state government and save a lot of money you've actually think do a better job -- said for a long time I think less would be more now with regard to a lot of the stuff I feel about the pension system I -- defense as a broken budget system completely broken and it's one of those things where we don't actually fix it. You know you get out their 4510 years from now mum. Cities and towns are basically just going to be paying pensions that are going to be teaching kids in -- going to be. Jason criminals and are going to be doing any of that stuff that just going to be paying pensions how would you fix that. When will we talked about is you really wanna get into -- while real. Quite a backpack forty -- I'm like I have people's ears of people example here's the simple rules and you could mean ago Greg. That was great you kiss -- for a long time time is in the air as he -- -- elected which you know is is entirely true. I'm actually look you'll put some -- some kind of position when you do get in on I think he's a fabulous parks and recreation director right. Could drive and -- them. -- Why -- these idiots and he's got a little. Specific answer -- we proposed this back in December. I'm thinking -- pension system is two pieces people with ten years or more more vested right. -- were concerned there's an explicit contract to pay their retirement -- less than ten years. That group is gonna have to pay for itself going forward we can't make the system works with regard to how far were RD at all were already thirty billion dollars in the hole between local teachers and state government. So everybody in less than ten years for big changes first one. Knowing kingdom more than 90000 dollars a year to parents and that's a perfectly decent pension OK meaning got to put like. A million bucks a million and a half -- away. To get opponents -- data to play in the 401K game the rest of us play second is. Raise the retirement age from 55 to sixty. Why why do we have this presumption out there that people Serbia retired the age of 5553. Okay yeah I probably will never be able to retire. I mean you know commitment I've been working literally its all I'd just flown to migrate to Canada lowered with -- that really -- and that's. -- it's a way it's gonna work for everybody else the third is. No more high three this whole notion that you get your pension based on your three best paid years because people have manipulated that for years you know you spent ten years is. Part time employee at the library or fifteen years is a part time employee at the library make five grand a year then you get the full time job you get the big salary full time job for the last five and you go out on a pension based on the high three now you pay it at that rate why should go out at that rate. So our view is you should pay as you get paid out on the -- side based only paid and adjusted for inflation and in the final thing as. People jump from one group to another. Right at the end of their career is based on the group that actually pays out the best yeah. No more group jumping you get paid out on whichever group is the most -- time in the public sector and do those four things okay. And based on the way people contribute now. Their existing contribution policy everybody would -- ten years you can fund their pension out of what they pay and when they retire and that way you sort of cut in half your problem and then all you're really have to do is just make sure you pay out the liability for the folks of more than ten years. And it's at that -- brilliant -- a thirty billion dollar problem right teachers state local thirty billion earlier ideally and Delilah liabilities 38 billion dollars is is where where I mean that's obnoxious hello Jim. -- guys what's up Jim. It's got some quick question for you don't agree -- everything administration has done it. There's one thing that isn't a kind of -- that that the consolidation. Like he resources in the protection of Massachusetts state identification. And kind of at. Second data center to project -- one note about on that. And I I guess what I would say is that I was the guy who originally put most of the states com. IT resources together at the mass since the mess -- -- that are over their Josie you created the Internet. Yeah I tried not to talk about -- I tell you Al Gore's seems to have on that. I don't know -- Maria. No but I'm a big believer that that the first thing we tried to do is deterring at the major data players that the GO RD ET the registry of some of the others at least on one building so they can start talking to each other about ways they could. Yeah consolidate the way they use storage and that kind of stuff. I think protecting the states that is unbelievably important to be a primary concern always. But the one thing I will say is I don't think the states those good job of -- of using. Information to help make. Intelligent decisions about the way it serves people because it still is a pretty subtle way of doing business so if your business him back to your question Greg. You know you have to file data right now. About you know your employees what they get paid when you pay taxes -- you why we're discover all the rest before five different agencies. Even though for all intents and purposes is still the same state government. Now I don't know why at some point we can't get to the point where an employer small business and this is a much bigger issue for small business and big business has been Wednesday easily you know they can comply. At some point we're gonna get to the point where. Employers literally just need to file. One -- data one time and the different parts of state government should be able to access that data until that that way instead of making the employer do it four or five different ways. Yeah right gas a year right -- is so difficult to do business hello Matt. They had found. Your question player -- what you target -- thirty billion dollars envelope don't -- -- onsite. And it's it's how much stay right it right now let's let's suppose right now everybody who currently was a load of pension. Was that he needed to pay them right now what you load them based. What was available we which we would be thirty billion dollars short thirty million short. All okay okay. And the way this works is. That you basically calculate. What we go out as a commonwealth to teachers. Local employees and state employees -- authority vested in the system and those we expect will -- going forward. And -- look at what the state has and investments and what that's gonna earn overtime. When you do the math that basically means we have to come up with thirty billion dollars in new money that we can meet those obligations. Yes bass what does it as I like his idea Iran on this but what it. Who's gonna vote for that. -- honestly you did you go to all of the all of this you to vote for right -- and I. I would listen I'll vote for you already numbers saying it the legislature -- Glover and I'm only gonna -- as a teacher unions going to be up on an opera I mean it did do. Important argument there is I'm an at elect. Before we put this thing go back in December we talked to a bunch people who legislature about it that this is what we're plan to propose. You know we need some feedback on this in the feedback we -- was pretty positive because they know that if we don't do this. We literally are going to be laying -- cops and firefighters and teachers as part of the futures you can see ya to make those payments associated with -- thirty billion dollar unfunded liability. The most open has that happened on this but they want as a governor who will lead on it. And drive the train and take some of the political he'd make it possible that's. A -- as is we take anywhere from me. He -- might come up with the idea and many things himself and that idea is never gonna work -- -- -- even try that's his attitude on things like -- That's why that's why he's that I have a brother who's a teacher and he's in new teacher and I mean let me tell you want to get his penchant for the rest of villagers -- indicates that they did talk pretty -- game right off the -- and this is what you voting for. And a you don't -- vote for not gonna -- -- alienate the -- it's like 25 years old girl from my big series if we don't solve this potential problem. Because of the seniority system and everything else would be almost impossible folks like that the continue to -- what's gonna happen Muslim community -- just gonna keep carving it out. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Hey Greg White board and Charlie -- Good quicktime I its statement and question yup. Our -- back in the in the back to the state out and I heard Charlie speak couple -- it it's got the same guy ballot in what is that like what that Charlie. It first. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Your people at a out dependable and our allies to -- Patrick has made this state where any how would you -- governance style when you've collected in non pepper. My governance probably the same as that though is damages. Try to put together really good teams. Develop a good agenda and the door is always wide open I'm a big believer in collecting data and information and feedback from any place -- Janet. Everybody works for me usually knows that. And one thing I would like to do that the state doesn't do very much the state uses its website right now. Primarily as a megaphone. You know at the pushed out sort of what a great job they're doing everything. And I think what we should be doing is using the Internet as a mechanism to collect in play and to gather information you might actually listen to the -- learn -- It is simple example of this when where's Harvard pilgrim we used to collect a lot of data from providers and members -- brokers and others. Employers about how we were doing and it was incredibly helpful in helping us think about ways we can improve the way we. Served over constituents and I would love to and the thing is if you hold the bureaucracy accountable which I wanna do to actually perform. One of the best ways I can think -- to do that is to give the people who have to deal with the bureaucracy vehicle through which they can communicate directly. The government about -- actually really working on the ground in the way it seems to be work and based on -- happy to -- -- getting there though and and not get dead drunk with power and and you know and and fall and lose contact with people and I mean that you think about the -- I'm whoever Ronald Reagan guy in the sense that Reagan always used to say about the Soviets trust but verify -- right now. As a manager I've always been a trust but verify guy a perfectly happy to believe the most of the time people -- gonna tell me what day. What they really believe but you know let's face it a lot of the time they tell you what. They think you wanna hear some huge believe them believer in verified and that means talking directly to the people. Imploring gauging with government at every level and here in what they have disable what they think their experiences like a hit an interesting idea guy. Just wandered around that this parade. People were screaming about the registry and -- arrest them and purses that you know at least if I'm gonna sit there for two hours. I'm like you get a decent cup of coffee and maybe work in my laptop and I thought -- Wi-Fi in the registry how hard could that really -- to do and why not put out to bid. You know some sort of a coffee card at Dunkin' Donuts -- are boxes somebody else and use the money generate from the coffee cart. To pay for the Wi-Fi. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Listen I like going like going to City Hall trying to appear at a parking ticket and have the person tell me that the campaign and on line if not I didn't specifically tell you on the site you have a very interesting view -- -- and -- Hey Jason -- -- Charlie Baker. -- Obama that was just look at. And our -- got a lot of new car in the. Yeah. Where -- cosmetic changes and though it doesn't now if if you ever met my wife should it. I have while I have absolutely no interest and that's. Not and decorating. Thing that's. I'm. My is that the -- in matrimony stood for throwing away my stuff. We've got there my wife literally tossing everything -- -- is is the ball I mean -- -- confident that he's running Armenia and Israeli money doesn't run okay about -- plan intend -- -- feel he's supposed to be -- villa Nina. What are you worried about him personally votes from the book you let you know. I got into this race because. I am really worried about the direction the state spent thirty years fixes stuff that's broken and all lot of about the public sector and a lot about the private sector. Our message is working we have 101000 people signed up to be team baker support as we get more people sign up every day. We have 101000 people who have contributed to the campaign. Every event we go to wherever it is there's always more people there that we expect there to be. And and we're just gonna keep doing what we're doing Greg and and I really do believe at the end of the day of this race is about. Job spending and taxes and who actually has the experience in the track record to do something about it I think I'm gonna -- I'm good and and we still have our deal item we do our deal drug addicts optics like of the week you get elect yes yes in the -- you know Scott Brown I had to really force them to live up to that beer summit I mean I had this there's. Not only resign but he and his eager and a Washington. You know. But he paid off and what I mean he was being chased by Barbara Walters again on how you do is he was picked -- opponent fell. A as usual great shall guide you. HI I didn't know much about -- -- -- interview -- -- you got a great. Personality. Great sense that you which I think you need to be in the government. And and excite somebody got -- all. -- thank you very much. And in constant enough to cut a deal to -- them to look at the progress that. It doesn't look let's. Not much. Yeah you could get it ethical questions oil. I comfort food. Can I get -- area and I know lot of people who. I thought a lot of people living on. That poses serious that side benefits. And a lot of them there's no nothing wrong with compliment they're really saying -- realizes that people waiting until we've really got to look at that and maybe. I think objectively people that it physically do something earned money for a change. That was the big that was the big debate back in the ninety's was if you're aren't. Public assistance and you're able bodied you should be doing some kind of work and and that was exactly what welfare reform is about and and it worked and we had a pretty high percentage of folks who were on. Public assistance or work and many of them actually managed to convert what they were doing on a part time basis eventually into a full time basis and got -- public assistance. Massachusetts right now based on the data looked at a couple months ago has one of the lowest. Workforce participation rates of people on its public assistance programs of any statement country -- and and that. That to me is just a lack of focus. And we should definitely be figure mean. Anybody who is able bodied we should be trying to figure -- help them get. And employed and and and and get off public assistance because at the end of the day it's not a good way to spend. A long time 102030 years it just hasn't -- On who you're talking about are we gotta get the economy going again to solve a bunch of these problems yen and that means not spending money we don't have. Reducing the regulatory burden cutting taxes and creating a climate where people feel like investing in Massachusetts again. What cutting it tax cut lies you know 535 guy you are against you get the income to expect 5% in order to -- -- -- on yes you want -- ten years ago narrowly voted yeah. That we should get the cells that -- expected 5% of his failure of the tax a liquor on liquor which did terrible totally agrees that there. Which did which did really big time damage to a lot of retailers all the way around the border that was just New Hampshire that her New York. For the folks out western mass and heard. With Connecticut at her with Rhode Island and southeastern -- itself western mass that that would hurt. I only a few more moments who is it Charlie Baker who is the Republican candidate for governor hey John. John. Among those guys that you just discussed about Charlie I -- -- the -- and I were the fire fighter in this state -- -- -- -- for eighteen years now. I wrote enough I get to work and payable -- but I don't get a Social Security because -- get the state on pension direct. Okay from there when you go and change these things. What happens to people like a sort of worked all along when we paid for a most the -- most people don't -- multiple realized like put twelfth cinema -- and and it's not matched I'm funding my own pension and in the arms. Take the money and spend it and then you turn around and we have a pretty billion dollar deficit. -- -- -- Good question remember the proposal I made was -- -- got ten years or more and your vested. The rules are the rules are the rules okay you keep your parents you as the rules for the folks have been and more in ten years you know they made a series of decisions life decisions based on assumptions about that. And they need to be it. My view is it's for the folks of less than ten years ago changed the rules going for world ever BO pay for all thing. -- -- Yeah I -- the baker question for that there are all up and get me so I can get right to work help but yucky thing. But the question is -- -- every day I am so frustrated about the inner city problems not so much the -- for -- welfare the other call that's frustrating but. I don't buy dot buy dot. Programs -- that thing getting banged it actually is a great pick up that. -- -- What young people into a different gangs in Massachusetts and it's now spread the -- What we've seen young kids getting killed in the streets at that time forgot -- -- think about the national god or the state police. Crack about Monday -- because of terrorism. Even go into the city and obviously favorite legal fight in the world and god is good replica guns. And you can get Scott didn't return. Hold it any idea that apple -- about. Okay AM the website is Charlie Baker 2010 dot com and is a place where you can just click on to sign up for team baker and volunteer right there. That's the easiest way to do it. The -- when -- in response it was his second question is. You know one of the commitments -- made early on in this race was that I was in I wasn't gonna cut local -- all right the reason I said that was his cities and towns have actually been. More aggressive about trying to live within their means in the Statehouse and and it. We've got locally by 600 million dollars Patrick administration has over the past couple years and that's splashes all over local law enforcement as well as education. And in a lot of cities you got huge issues I mean foreign relate on some delight. 30% of their police officers Brockton huge hits the city of Boston as well. And I don't know how are expected to keep the peace and and protect law abiding citizens in these communities of the state just keeps pushing its own financial problem. Off by the local government so for me the first thing we gotta do for serious about solving some of the problems -- talking about. Stop cutting local -- means every time we do that it is splashes over. Public safety and education and makes the streets less safe than they were before the schools less capable of educating kids in the whole thing. Especially in urban areas just gets worse and worse this administration was also talking about not funding that windmill is that's a great example of just big. Sort of pitch of of a state obligation. Off onto the cities and towns and I'm. And I said a number of occasions that the state need to live up to its commitments in the coin though is a commitment that the state made to local government in to police officers and that needs to be restored. -- Derek with one on March mr. -- pleasure. Com well. I'm a person that believe that the State's criminal justice system. Crime and punishment in this seat as a very real effect on the budget economy. Will you bring back or the subject the -- That -- will you bring up. It is Torre and along with these flying all -- that's with -- around on our street. -- we gonna get real on crime and punishment because it is affecting everything. You're talking about now we need somebody that's in the end dot -- definition after the war. -- and I am I am a pro death penalty guy from -- is have been and on the second question. You know we -- get Jessica's law passed with a -- work and I think we need to go back and revisit that and do more with it I think. The the the whole crime agenda is especially in urban areas. A critical part of the whole economic piece now you know you can't -- -- you can't get folks to create jobs and investing communities where people worry about public safety. And I think you know and that that people miss that a huge opportunity. To improve the economic condition of a lot of folks in those communities start would make him safe polo -- Yeah Taylor looked after so -- I'm actually sitting in line that aren't it myself but I appreciate your comment period. That has only been. Our I got it got ever accept that go vote why people are ready -- and god we'll show them. You can. -- Exactly I got in general terms turn out of the question for. Politicians typically when they're running they have great ideas -- stable well what they say they they're really look what we want you'll get an offer. It seems like it'll it'll go through what they're what they've proposed what -- -- public. Is that because they're they're saying what wanna hear that folder or that they physically can't get it done in the and they just go with a little in the office. I guess it's a two things about the first part about -- people wanna hear I'm not run and taken a screen campaign okay. I'm not a basically saying that they're serious reform a restructuring that has that happened state government's got a live within its means and Afghanistan abuse in the tax -- in the cities and towns is the primary vehicle for managing. It's an ability to balance its budget. So you know if I win the mandates going to be it's time for change is time for smaller bureaucracy smaller government a more effective and at a fishing government. The second thing I would say. I don't know anyone who's ever worked in an organization that didn't have politics and it okay that just kind of comes with the territory now and it's up to you if you're the leader of that organization to figure out how to get stuff done in that environment. And and then what people say they mean -- speculating though the legislature. No we get truth in sentencing them I was there we -- welfare reform -- when I was there we -- facility consolidations we cut taxes 27 times. We balanced nine budgets. All with the legislature it's you know you can get stuff done but you gotta be willing. To develop the relationships established trust in the market and working hard. Now I'm delighted with -- -- he says -- I really. You know so far so I don't like it well listen. Could these dogs through and obviously both cheer up people change they get -- -- writes I would declare fire deal because I'm thinking of throwing the massive weight of this program behind you with a official endorsement -- like to get a deal -- listeners so. We endorsed him. -- Casey's agreed. We'll -- like you lets you know elections on Tuesday sometime during that next week ago. Well it while you're still topical and now we know what you do when you talk about the next week does that mean I have until Friday until the following Tuesday you would have until the following Tuukka. We would do a morning show broadcast tropics play he'll be there you know you meet your voters in and used to Woodward is a done deal done deal. -- I promise yes I promise I promise I solemnly swear I solemnly swear -- aren't. Well Charlie thanks Chicago via iTunes -- guys yet to have peace there I go to home opener. -- -- about it I'm going to be able to do that and I think it's probably no affect them and it is that's a sneaking into you know -- -- pay fees on tickets -- in my -- I do you know that -- they do now is not free tickets or any goals for anything again. All right Charlie Baker on the Hill Man Morning Show at WAA after.